[rt-users] RT 3 and Debian :-)

[Marc Haber]

On Tue, Jun 01, 2004 at 08:16:06AM +1200, jamie baddeley wrote:
> On Tue, 2004-06-01 at 07:53, Marc Haber wrote:
> > On Sat, May 29, 2004 at 12:38:52AM +0200, Bastiaan Spandaw wrote:
> > > We currently use rt2, but because we want to upgrade to rt3
> > > I also chose for the option of using sarge+rt3 in a production
> > > environment.
> > 
> > I would recommend unstable. You get security updates in a much more
> > timely manner. OTOH, sid might break every day, and sarge breakages
> > are much less frequent. You need to carefully examine your preferences.
> > 
> 
> I also used to have this view.
> 
> I've just been through this. Sid broke twice in one week, and currently
> remains broken.

I cannot confirm this. My sid systems are alive and kicking.

otoh, sid usually fails rather spectacularly, so checking update's
implications on a staging system is reasonably painless.

> As the debian co-maintainer for rt3 pointed out to me, the security
> based fixes implemented in Sid usually get tagged high priority, so get
> passed through to sarge reasonably quickly.

I have to disagree on that. priority high only shortens the wait
period. If a package's dependencies cannot be satisfied in sarge, the
package doesn't migrate to sarge even if the waiting period is over.
That way, a security update can be held from migrating to sarge for
weeks or even months.

> My scenario is only customers and staff with known IP's can connect, so
> this mitigates the security risk somewhat.

It does, but I wouldn't feel comfortable with this.

> > Neither Debian testing nor unstable get any "official" support. And
> > you can always roll your own .debs.
> > 
> Indeed. I know someone who has created the rt3 backport. I'll ask if
> they want to put this up somewhere.

The problem with running a rt3 backport is that woody still has perl
5.6, which causes problems with international characters with rt3.
Anyway, that's what I remember from this list (I am unfortunately not
in charge of any rt3 installation at the moment).

Greetings
Marc

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