[rt-users] Installation on Cobalt RaQ XTR

Wed May 22 23:20:29 EDT 2002

You could probably, and quite happily install a second version of Perl (of a
later vintage).

Just make sure that you leave the original Perl intact.

However, it is possible to get everything working without upgrading Perl.

As far as the Cpan debate - I'm using 1.5.something and I still have it want
to upgrade me to version 5.6.1 of perl... Which is fine except it's a real
no-no on a cobalt, and I can't seem to get a Makefile for perl on OS X
(nothing ever appears after the configure script runs, and it seems as
though it should work for me...)

But I've found that just control-c ing the perl install seems to work, and
then, if things refuse to install, install them manually. There was one
module for RT 2.1.13 that apparently required perl 5.6.1, but I modified the
source for one of the scripts to let it accept 5.0.1, and now RT is running
very nicely on the server.

Andrew

On 23/5/02 1:07 PM, "Jesse Vincent" <jesse at bestpractical.com> wrote:

> As a minor aside,  RT 2.0.14's testdeps script will make sure that CPAN.pm
> is of a new enough vintage to not have this perl change beat you up anymore.
> (And it will fix it if it finds that it's too old)
> 
> -j
> 
> On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 10:04:04PM -0500, Bob Apthorpe wrote:
>> 
>> Also, a point to remember: regardless of platform, if you are upgrading a
>> version of CPAN prior to 1.5x, ALWAYS UPGRADE MANUALLY.
>> 
>> If you've never used CPAN, go to
>> http://search.cpan.org/search?mode=module&query=CPAN
>> download the tarball and install and configure it.
>>  
>> If your version of CPAN is already configured but is older than (say) 1.52,
>> either install the tarball (as above) or have CPAN grab it for you via:
>> 
>>     perl -MCPAN -e 'get "CPAN";'
>> 
>> and install it manually.
>> 
>> If you're curious, I can explain why CPAN appears to go berserk sometimes,
>> attempting to 'helpfully' upgrade core perl when installing otherwise
>> innocuous modules (like CPAN...) The solution is to manually upgrade CPAN
>> beyond version 1.48. I believe this problem plagues perl versions earlier
>> than 5.6.1 or 5.7.x. though realistically, with packaged software you often
>> have little idea what version your idiot vendor has stuck you with. The
>> current version of CPAN is 1.61 and I haven't had any trouble with it.
>> 
>> Back to the subject of Cobalts - how angry do they get if you install a
>> second, less broken perl alongside (rather than in place of) the vendor's
>> distribution? You'd need to change the prefix and the library directory at a
>> minimum.
>> 
>> -- Bob
>> P.S: On a completely unrelated note, if you need help convincing Sun's stock
>> perl on Solaris to use gcc instead of Sun's 'compiler advertisement'
>> (/usr/ccs/bin/cc) so you can install additional modules, use CPAN, etc., drop
>> me a line. It's pretty easy but involves a little deft maneuvering with a
>> coat hanger (metaphorically speaking). I've done it on many Solaris boxes
>> ranging from v5.5.1 to v8.
>> 
>> On Wednesday 22 May 2002 20:48, Andrew Yager wrote:
>>> DO NOT UPGRADE PERL!!!!
>>> 
>>> Nothing will work!!!! It is VERRY VERRRY VERRRY bad on a cobalt!!!!
>>> 
>>> If u send me a list of the problems you are having, I regularly configure &
>>> install rt on cobalts - I may be able to help.
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>> 
>>> On 22/5/02 7:36 AM, "Swayne, Mark A" <mark.a.swayne at xo.com> wrote:
>>>> I can't say anything about how to downgrade back to a previous Perl
>>>> version. But to avoid this problem, decline to update perl, and update
>>>> the CPAN module itself.  Newer versions do not attempt to shove a perl
>>>> upgrade down your throat.
>>>> 
>>>> If you can, I would recommend using the latest perl with
>>>> mason--especially if you are currently using 5.6.0.
>>>> 
>>>> Some people (especially linux users) are reporting success using Mason
>>>> with the latest mod_perl and perl 5.6.1 compiled as a DSO.  You could try
>>>> this config.
>>>> 
>>>> Another option, if you have a support contract, is to harass Sun about
>>>> your problems with the RAQ.  They should really make current software
>>>> support available for server appliance users.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Good luck.
>>>> 
>>>> -Mark
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: josh [mailto:josh at saratoga.lib.ny.us]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 8:46 AM
>>>> To: rt-users
>>>> Subject: [rt-users] Installation on Cobalt RaQ XTR
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I have been trying to get an installation going on a Cobalt RaQ XTR
>>>> with quite a few problems. Among them some FAQs which I would have
>>>> noticed if I read through the documentation. [ Why is CPAN making me
>>>> upgrade to 5.6.1? -- of course a note on how to downgrade back if you
>>>> just were saying yes to everything on a monday morning, would be nice
>>>> too.]
>>>> 
>>>> The machines are designed for ISPs who do web hosting and I'm trying
>>>> to get it up using the http://rt.domain.com where rt is running on
>>>> virtual server.
>>>> 
>>>> Should I create an rt virtual user first? Basically, using a server
>>>> appliance adds a lot of possiblities but in this case is forcing me
>>>> into older versions of database software and perl than I'd like. I
>>>> don't believe mod_perl or FastCGI is possible, but I'm not sure. So if
>>>> anyone has dealt with these devices I'd appreciate heaing back.
>>> 
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