[rt-users] New user considering to use RT + FreeBSD port for 3.8

Joe Mailinglists joe.rtuser at gmail.com
Fri Nov 7 11:39:08 EST 2008

Angelo, can you please send me the updated shar if it is different from the
one available at
I want to try it on a test system before I try to install it from source.  I
luckily have enough time to
play around with things.


On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Angelo Turetta
<aturetta+rt at bestunion.it<aturetta%2Brt at bestunion.it>
> wrote:

> Joe Mailinglists wrote:
>> Hi Angelo,
>> My name is Krishna...I am subscribed to too many mailing lists, hence a
>> separate email address for every mailing list.
> Thanks, that's a good habit (look at my address), but I nonetheless like to
> know who I'm talking to. The name need not be fake, even if the address is.
>  Our primary concern here is the upgrade procedure and of course stability.
>>  Will everything magically work from one port
>> to the other?
> Every upgrade is a sensible operation, no matter how you installed the
> software. The biggest challenges are upgrades involving DB schema changes,
>  RT is a shining example of how to do it right, but you cannot expect to do
> such a thing 'magically': based on your business continuity policies, you
> may even need a test installation to validate the upgrade before deploying
> it on a production system.
> The port of rt38 by Philip M. Gollucci is actually the first which seems to
> allow for a comfortable upgrade to future versions.
>  Can I just download rt38 port from the link you mentioned and install it?
>>  Is it stable enough?  One of the users was
>> suggesting that I install it from source.  What do you suggest?
> The freebsd port infrastructure is a solid one, and it is one of the few
> way you have to keep the dependencies sane if you install more than one
> application per system. I personally don't like to install software from
> source other than by using a port, but I have to admit that previous
> versions of the rt port where somewhat unfriendly.
> The rt38 port is not yet finished, so you should be prepared to some
> non-pleasant surprise, but it has much more solid structure than previous
> ones.
> Only you, based on your expertise with the ports collection, can decide
> which way to go. If you try the port, please try my patch attached to the
> PR.
> Angelo.
>  Thanks,
>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Angelo Turetta <aturetta+rt at bestunion.it<aturetta%2Brt at bestunion.it>>
>> wrote:
>>    Joe Mailinglists wrote:
>>        1) We use a FreeBSD system.  I see that there is a port
>>        available (rt36) for version 3.6 but none for 3.8 yet.  Is it ok
>>        if I go ahead and install rt36 now and later on upgrade to rt38
>>        whenever it is available?  If not, do you suggest that I
>>        manually download the latest version of rt3.8.1 and then install
>>        it from the source?  Which method is safer/easier for upgrades
>>        in the long run?
>>    There is a port for 3.8.1 in the works, look at
>>    http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/125745 (check all
>>    replies), and the user's work space at
>>    http://people.freebsd.org/~pgollucci/rt38<http://people.freebsd.org/%7Epgollucci/rt38>
>>    The port is really well thought, and for the first time it will be
>>    possible to pre-package rt. Unluckily Philip seems to have vanished for
>>    the last two months, and the work on it has stopped.
>>    I may send you an updated shar if you whish.
>>        3) I've been reading that RT is memory intensive.  Is 2 GB
>>        enough?  This machine also runs the DHCP server.  Do you guys
>>        recommend to have a separate system for RT?
>>    If you need a high-performance system you'd sure need to consider a DB
>>    server optimization (including cache memory etc..), but I don't think
>>    the web application is inherently memory intensive.
>>        I hope these questions belong to this list.
>>    Yes, they do. Eventually, you may consider posting using your real
>>    name :)
>>    Angelo.
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