[rt-users] Perl conflicts

Ram ram0502 at gmail.com
Thu Nov 1 15:50:01 EDT 2012

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Tim Cutts <tjrc at sanger.ac.uk> wrote:
> On 31 Oct 2012, at 16:45, Ram <ram0502 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On my Mac, where I do some RT tinkering as a standalone build, I have an rt-support directory in my home directory, and I put all the libraries RT needs in there, and I point my PERL5LIB and DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH variables at it whenever I'm working on RT.  The relevant bits of my CPAN/MyConfig.pm file:
>>>  'makepl_arg' => q[INSTALL_BASE=~/rt-support],
>>>  'mbuildpl_arg' => q[--install_base ~/rt-support],
>>> and then my PERL5LIB is:
>>>  $HOME/rt-support/lib/perl5
>> Yep this is exactly what we've tried but some of the required modules
>> do not respect those parameters (INSTALL and MANPAGE). We started to
>> tweak the perl make files for those modules one by one but it's not a
>> great way to go.
> As you see above, I don't set the individual locations like INSTALL and MANPAGE.  Just the INSTALL_BASE.  I have not found a single CPAN module that RT requires which did not install correctly in my ~/rt_support directory.  Which ones did you have problems with?

My mistake;  the issue seems to be that, in trying out the various
build variables, mbuildpl_arg was left with INSTALL_BASE rather than

>>> On my production RT server, which is running Ubuntu, I use the system perl, and install pre-packaged modules where I can, but if I can't I just let RT's 'make fixdeps' do what it likes, and install the necessary packages in the system's site perl directory.  Since the server isn't used for anything other than RT, I'm not bothered about superseding what the OS itself installs.  The major advantage of doing it that way is that it's then much easier to configure with the packaged versions of apache, mod_perl and so on.
>> Our server runs CentOS 6 (downstream of RHEL 6) and it is no small
>> feat to get most of the perl modules as rpms, it is impossible to get
>> them all without building them ourselves.
> On Debian/Ubuntu systems there's a fabulous little package called dh-make-perl which whizzes off to CPAN, downloads the module sources, configures and builds it and results in a .deb package which you can install on the system.  Before RT 4.0 came out, that's how I built all the perl modules for our RT server.  It was a nice clean way to do it, if a bit of a faff.  Does CentOS have a similar script for making RPM's out of CPAN modules?

There are tools to do it (cpan2rpm comes to mind) and of course
something like perlbrew (oft mentioned in this type of discussion)
which I believe that compiles things into 'executables'. The above
solution is the best I can do IMO since it's unrealistic to expect all
the perl modules needed to show up in rpms for every OS though there
are no shortage of folks maintaining RPMs that are happy to build them
for whatever perl module you want (Dag and rpmforge come to mind for

Thanks again, I think seeing you write it out let to my getting it working!

> Regards,
> Tim

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